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Aug 14, 2011 19:40:41 GMT
Post by fatbloke on Aug 14, 2011 19:40:41 GMT
Hi guys
I have an FZ750 frame cluttering up the garage that has been plastic coated black. I have the V5 but it's on a Q plate. Can anyone on here make use of it? Swaps for packets of biscuits, battenburg cake etc accepted. Many thanks Fatbloke.
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Aug 15, 2011 20:20:28 GMT
Post by alliekat on Aug 15, 2011 20:20:28 GMT
hiya is it a 2mg or 1fn ? and where are you in the uk , i might be interested as i m thinking of building a race Fz.
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Aug 15, 2011 21:54:29 GMT
Post by JohnRogerOhanlon on Aug 15, 2011 21:54:29 GMT
Hi Fatboy, if it is a 2mg I will offer you two mars bars and a packet of Garibaldi's (200grams. pack) but if it is a 1AE or a 1FN I will throw in another mars bar, a wispa and a cadbury's cream egg. PM me
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Aug 16, 2011 12:50:14 GMT
Post by maximumx on Aug 16, 2011 12:50:14 GMT
How many Charleston Chews to ship it to Canada?
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Aug 16, 2011 17:12:39 GMT
Post by fatbloke on Aug 16, 2011 17:12:39 GMT
I'm very excited about the offers of cake!! Anyhow, the frame number on the log book is SABTVR03372087024 Egine number (which is sold) 2MG007456
Hope that helps, Many thanks
Ian,
PS I'm in north lincolnshire.
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Aug 17, 2011 7:05:39 GMT
Post by fz750horse on Aug 17, 2011 7:05:39 GMT
The recorded frame number sounds like a clerical error; FZs had identical engine and frame numbers and even if the engine had neen changed the frame number should still be in the form of 2MG123456 or 1FN123456 etc. The first number is the model, the two letters are the market (Europe/UK etc.) and the next six digits the serial number. I'm not suggesting the frame is dodgy in any way but if Ali is considering building a race bike on it the ACU, clubs and police are getting VERY hot on frame numbers. If the powder coating makes the number hard to read the scrutineers will not let it race. I've had scrutineers quibble ove the fact that my frame had been brush painted (by a previous owner) and this could be disguising tamper marks - I had to carefully rub the paint away on the headstock. You may have seen the story about 16 bikes being seized by the police at Bemsee's first meeting this year - some because they thought the FONT didn't look quite right! As I said, I'm not implying that the frame is in any way dodgy - just saying don't spend a lot of time and money building a race bike unless the numbers are clearly visible and undamaged
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Aug 17, 2011 9:14:21 GMT
Post by JohnRogerOhanlon on Aug 17, 2011 9:14:21 GMT
2MG's don't qualify for post classic races....yet...the cut-off date is 1985 (Dec) so to do a 2MG race bike you would be competing against much newer and in some cases larger machines (1000cc's) etc. which would leave you with a slight handicap. That said, Mike Wignall won a standing quarter mile sprint a couple of weeks ago beating such things as Aprilia milles and other modern stuff on his stock 1FN.
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Aug 17, 2011 16:52:37 GMT
Post by fatbloke on Aug 17, 2011 16:52:37 GMT
Hi again
I read the number from the V5 reg document but i will check the actual frame later tonight. I would presume if its not a Yamaha frame number thats the reason its on a Q plate in the first place.
Many thanks
Fatbloke.
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Aug 17, 2011 20:28:25 GMT
Post by fatbloke on Aug 17, 2011 20:28:25 GMT
Hi again
I have checked the frame number and it matches the V5 logbook. If you were to use it as a track bike i cant see why that would be any different to getting it MOT'd? Anyway, its off to the tip at the weekend if no one wants it,
Ta
Fatbloke.
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Aug 17, 2011 22:08:12 GMT
Post by fz750horse on Aug 17, 2011 22:08:12 GMT
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Aug 18, 2011 13:03:23 GMT
Post by alliekat on Aug 18, 2011 13:03:23 GMT
well that all sounds a bit in depth , i think i will leave it as the number appears weird, that is probably why it is a Q plate, But thanks everyone for the input.
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Aug 18, 2011 16:37:43 GMT
Post by fatbloke on Aug 18, 2011 16:37:43 GMT
When a bike was put back onto the road back in the day the original reg number was taken and the Q plate was implemented with a new frame ID. This was supposed to stop damaged bikes being sold on at full retail to unsuspecting punters. The frame I have is not on a Yamaha number for probably this reason and I can't see why the police would have any interest in what is a 25 year old bike? The newer bikes being taken from owners are a completely different thing as they are pretending to be something that they are not. If there was anything dodgy about the frame I would A, not advertise it on the internet, B, not have gained an MOT on the bike when I bought it,
Thanks
Fatbloke.
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Aug 18, 2011 18:47:09 GMT
Post by fz750horse on Aug 18, 2011 18:47:09 GMT
As I said earlier, I'm absolutely not implying that there's anything dubious about your frame. The MOT/scrutineering thing is different. My race bike went through a stack of MOTs with no problem before I took it off the road but the scroots were very suspicious of the rough brush paintwork over the number stamped into the headstock, even before the police raided Brands in March. All the MOT station does is check the number against the DVLA database to make sure it refers to the right vehicle. The scrutineers are looking for evidence of tampering with the number stamped on the frame. Their word is law and they and can refuse to let you race if they suspect the font doesn't look right, the background is the wrong texture (eg. smooth when it should be brushed) or the spacing between digits is a bit uneven. I have heard of bikes being failed because of powder coating and it was because of this, rather than the unusual number that I originally posted (however I imagine the scroots might shit themselves if the original number has been erased and a new one stamped ;D ). I certainly didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, just pointing out that the ACU and clubs are belatedly but quite rightly getting very strict on this and I wouldn't want anyone to lose race entry fees over it.
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